Conversation with Mr. Tor Arne Jorgensen, Mrs. Jorgensen, David Quinn, Matthew Scillitani, Casey Scillitani on Smart People Mating and Dating

Scott Douglas Jacobsen
In-Sight Publishing, Fort Langley, British Columbia, Canada

Correspondence: Scott Douglas Jacobsen (Email: scott.jacobsen2025@gmail.com)

Received: Late 2024/Early 2025
Accepted: N/A
Published: February 22, 2025 

Abstract

The conversation reveals a multifaceted understanding of human mating and dating practices—one that spans practical considerations, emotional intimacy, and long‐term compatibility. Participants highlighted that initial physical attraction and shared interests may spark a connection, yet it is the evolution of shared values, consistent communication, and adaptability over time that truly fortifies a relationship. There is consensus that while factors such as intellectual parity and socioemotional sensitivity can set the stage, the challenges inherent in life—ranging from evolving personal goals to the pressures of familial responsibilities—demand ongoing effort and mutual growth. The dialogue underscores that commitment, be it through legal, ceremonial, or informal unions, must be continually nurtured. Ultimately, the discussion suggests that successful partnerships rely on a balanced blend of cognitive compatibility, shared values, and the resilience to adapt as individuals change over time.

Keywords: Cognitive Congruence, Communication, Complementarity, Evolving Relationships, Fertility, Legal Marriage, Relationship Dynamics, Shared Values, Socioemotional Sensitivity

Introduction

This interview gathers insights from a diverse group of individuals, each reflecting on the intricate dance of mating and dating in modern society. Anchored in a candid discussion that blends personal experience with broader cultural observations, the session explores how factors like intellectual congruence, socioemotional compatibility, and shared values contribute to the sustainability of both short-term pairings and long-term relationships. Participants—ranging from those with decades of marital experience to individuals navigating contemporary relationship dynamics—offer perspectives on everything from the role of traditional marriage to the evolving nature of personal identity and family planning. By examining these themes, the interview not only illuminates the complexities of choosing and nurturing a partner but also invites readers to consider how enduring love is shaped by continual adaptation and mutual commitment.

Main Text (Interview)

Interviewer: Scott Douglas Jacobsen

Interviewees: Mr. Tor Arne Jorgensen, Mrs. Jorgensen, David Quinn, Matthew Scillitani, Casey Scillitani

Section 1: Pairing

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Thank you for taking the time for this short session on mating and dating amongst some smart people, these are intended for you and, if desired and if time, your partner too. Length of responses are entirely up to you. The focus is mating and dating here. “Mating,” the partnering part either by common law, marriage, or something equivalently formalized in some sense up to and including having children. “Dating,” the search and dance of finding someone or some people who fit well with your gender identity, sexual orientation, various belief commitments, emotional and intellectual proclivities, and the like. Regarding life goals and values, what seems, in an overview, essential to consider in a partner for intended short-term pairings and long-term relationships? The idea being: the image and goals, realistic and not, one has for one’s life vis-a-vis a partner. 

David Quinn: Well I am a straight male and sought a straight female. Got married just over 30 years ago, same partner now. I had been dating another woman before, but left her when I met my future wife with whom the match was much better. In my view marriage is about the children, carrying on the line, so fertility and heritable traits including intelligence are important, but so is sexual attraction. I was sexually attracted to my wife.

She is fully my equal intellectually. We met in a PhD program at a good university, probably the only couple to have graduated from that program. We also agree on most social issues. But we are from far distant places, different countries.

Mr. Tor Arne Jorgensen: In the initial period, you find the answers you need about whether, in my case, she is someone worth pursuing, meaning investing time in, and gradually making the assessments that naturally follow in the wake of invested time. Relationships are like most other things – you need to walk some miles before you can form an opinion about whether the investment was worth it or not. Love usually doesn’t take into account the human parameters; they emerge as time progresses. So when the “fog” if you can call it that, has settled, then what you’re looking for here appears. Or, as one can more easily describe as “everyday life,” when it kicks in, then and only then do the criteria – whether one fits or not, whether you’re compatible or not – stand the test. It’s only then, regardless of short-term or long-term.

Mrs. Jorgensen: Everything that appears in the beginning is all the beautiful but fleeting things; it’s only when the dust has settled and everyday life sets in that you see who still stands there. Those are the ones who meet all the criteria that were set.

Matthew Scillitani: I’ve never had any desire for a short-term pairing. But for long-term relationships, it’s very important that we have similar ideas surrounding kids, religion, politics, day-to-day relationship dynamics like chores, professional work, and (frequency/type of) romantic outings.

Personally, I want 2 to 4 kids and aspire to raise them in a mostly apolitical environment, both at home and school. Actually, kids spend most of their time at school, so it’s important to make sure they’re attending a good one. For day-to-day things, I prefer cooking and doing outside chores, and would preferably want to go on at least one romantic outing per week.

Casey Scillitani: Matt and I met online. So, before we even saw each other, we had already talked about our political and philosophical values. At the time, we also shared our mental health struggles and were up front about everything, talking for hours through text. This made it so that we didn’t have any surprises down the line because we’d already said everything from the start. Sometimes, even now, we communicate best through text.

Section 2: Matching

Jacobsen: Leta Hollingworth posited a plus or minus two standard deviation communication gap in cognitive ability. Too high or too low for interlocutors then the fidelity of conversation becomes too different to maintain it–let’s call this hypothesis cognitive ability congruence. This seems discussed amongst various high-IQ communities. Similarly for socioemotional sensitivities and skills, maybe, a similar hypothesis exists for these, in a different domain, too. In general terms, does this seem like a real factor in the area of intimacy and relationships–matching of mind and emotions for entrance into and sustainability of a relationship? 

Quinn: We think mostly alike and respect/fear each other’s ability. A small fraction of a standard deviation one way or the other, if we took some suitable test. We learn from each other and tend to end in the same place on just about every issue. I didn’t seek this aspect and had heard that opposites attract, but it happened that I got similarity. It probably makes life smoother, given how strongly we hold opinions about many things.

Mr. Tor Arne Jorgensen: Meeting each other cognitively, or socio-emotionally, can in many cases play a major role, and can certainly in many cases follow an exponential atypical development, resulting in a premature breakup. However, there are relationships that flourish contrary to what would be predicted to end in certain termination. A relationship based on pure love will overcome everything. If one looks beyond the mental barriers that can quickly form, one discovers the underlying values, those that you build upon further. It is then that relationships become lasting.

Mrs. Jorgensen: It has never been an issue for us. Our values overlap. What I’m good at might not be his strength, and vice versa. It’s all about complementing each other.

Matthew Scillitani: I think that the gap between partners isn’t too important. Picture this, a couple who are both around I.Q. 85. They’re very likely to have serious communication issues despite their similar intellectual ability.

In contrast, take a couple where one is I.Q. 140 and the other is I.Q. 180. There’s a 40-point gap there, but I.Q. 140 is more than enough to effectively work through the typical problems that arise in any romantic relationship.

Casey Scillitani: If you intend to discuss intellectual interests with your partner, and it’s a huge part of your relationship, you will potentially have communication issues. But if your relationship is based on emotional intimacy, and shared hobbies and interests, then you’ll have good success in communication.

Section 3: Diversity

Jacobsen: Following from the last question, or more particularly, how relevant, even rank-ordered in importance, are factors including “gender identity, sexual orientation, various belief commitments, emotional and intellectual proclivities,” desire for children, and more of which you’re aware, in selection of individuals in dating?

Quinn: For marriage, I think gender identity and sexual orientation must be settled and acceptable between the partners. I can’t imagine myself as a straight male being in a long term relationship with anyone but a straight female. 30 years ago this went without saying though.

Then desire for children should be agreed. Fertility can even be checked if it is in doubt.

As for the other stuff, each couple will probably work them out differently, and I wouldn’t want to specify, rank-order, or otherwise try to guess how another successful couple might do it. Other marriages seem much unlike ours, but I don’t have to get along with those people, just my own wife.

Mr. Tor Arne Jorgensen: “It’s not easy to answer, as much of what you mention emerges as time progresses. However, as everyone knows, physical appearance is one of the first things that comes into play, before moving from the purely platonic to something of more substance. This is what one can build upon: similarities, shared values in combination with a pleasant appearance. For me, a life partner only becomes that when a beautiful exterior reflects an equal interior.”

Mrs. Jorgensen: I’m not really concerned about what you’re referring to, as it wasn’t something I considered when I got together with my husband. Back then, we shared many of the same interests, just as we do now. However, it’s probably something people would take into account today, as it seems to play a bigger role now than it did 20+ years ago.

Matthew Scillitani: My ranking is, from most to least important is gender identity/sexual orientation, sense of morality, romance, desire to have children, political beliefs, and lastly the little things like chores or hobbies.

Casey Scillitani: Gender identity, morality, romance, hobbies, chores, emotional proclivities, and political beliefs.

Section 4: Longevity

Jacobsen: Does the style of pairing seem to have an explicit or implicit effect, apparently statistically significantly different, on the health and longevity of the pairing, e.g., common law, secular marital union, religious ceremonial marriage, etc.?

Quinn: I am speaking from experience about a marriage with children. Marriages have rough spots. Making divorce / breakup a bit difficult can help with getting through those rough spots.

I think it’s well supported statistically that children do best with a two-parent household, preferably their birth parents. The state should discourage divorce and the creation of single parent and step-parent situations where the birth parents could have stayed together for the children.

If there are no children in a longterm relationship, it’s a situation I am unfamiliar with. When children arrive, it changes many things about a relationship including putting many stresses on it — life is never the same afterward. We had children soon after marriage.

Mr. Tor Arne Jorgensen: Marriage itself is not the important thing here, even though tradition would have it that this is the safe choice to make for a long-lasting relationship. Here, the religious sphere collides with the statistical reality sphere. Possibly this is why so many relationships fall apart, due to the framework conditions of marriage. Well, in my case, our relationship was safely grounded in what must always lie at the foundation: love, which overcomes everything, married or not. We did not get married until 23 years had passed, and then only to put the formalities in place with regard to heirs, etc.

Mrs. Jorgensen: Getting married in itself was not important to me; what mattered most was that we had, and still have, a strong relationship. Getting married was, of course, nice, but it wasn’t to strengthen the bond between us—rather, it was to formalize things for our children.

Matthew Scillitani: For me, it was important that we were legally and ceremonially married. Symbolism is valuable, and I doubt that many relationships are able to survive long-term without both sides caring about symbolic gestures.

Casey Scillitani: Marriage isn’t just symbolic, it’s also a legal agreement, and in cases of infidelity and financial issues, there are real consequences if the marriage isn’t going well. If a partner were unfaithful then there’s a legal repercussion (divorce and division of assets). So, if a person doesn’t see legal marriage as essential, I question their motivations because, if things were to go south in the relationship, they wouldn’t be held accountable for their actions.

If the reason someone doesn’t want to get married is because they say they don’t have the time or resources, that’s an indication that there’s a lack of commitment to the relationship. Even if it were about symbolism, it’s easy to quickly get married at the courthouse for a minimal cost and time investment. So, if they can’t find the time to be legally married then it indicates that they’re not prioritizing the relationship.

Section 5: Changes

Jacobsen: People change over time. Unless, they have some rigid personality structure, exhibit some personality structure disordering. What seem like important factors and skills to develop in, if not already have entering, the partnership to take into account over the evolution of the “dance” between the members of the relationship, as they age, change, grow, and even lose physical and mental functionality?

Quinn: Shared goals help, shared children is the most obvious and probably most enduring shared goal. Shared housing is another — it’s cheaper to run one household than two, and division of labor in running the household is helpful too. Our parents stayed together until death on both sides. Relationships grow apart in some ways, but there has been enough glue to hold them together.

One distinctive characteristic of our relationship is that we are both intellectually confident. We fear nobody. If we don’t understand something, many others don’t either. This common experience helps us understand each other.

Mr. Tor Arne Jorgensen: In a relationship that lasts for decades, the dance between partners is about following each other’s rhythm, adjusting the steps as life changes, and never forgetting why they began the journey together in the first place. I’d like to highlight a few points that illustrate what I mean:

Communication and openness
Being open to each other’s thoughts, feelings, and desires, even as they change, is essential. Regular and honest dialogue helps build trust and understanding, preventing the couple from growing apart.

Flexibility and adaptability
Even when a couple shares values and goals, it’s natural for individuals to evolve over time. The ability to adapt to each other’s growth and find new ways to support one another is key to a lasting relationship.

Room for individual growth
Even in a close partnership, it’s important to give each other the freedom to pursue individual interests and passions. This can bring new energy to the relationship and inspire both personal and shared growth.

Maintaining intimacy
Love flourishes when the couple prioritizes closeness, both emotionally and physically. Small acts of affection and attention, like a hug, a compliment, or a thoughtful surprise, help keep the spark alive.

Shared goals and experiences
Setting new goals together or sharing experiences can further strengthen the bond. This might include traveling, exploring new hobbies, or contributing to the community in meaningful ways.

Patience and humor
Challenges will arise over time, whether they’re small annoyances or major life events. The ability to face them with patience and to laugh together when things don’t go as planned is an invaluable resource.

Care during physical or mental decline
As time goes on, health challenges may become a reality. A lasting love means being there for each other, showing care, and adjusting the relationship to accommodate these changes.

For couples like my wife and me, who already have a strong foundation, it’s this continuous evolution that keeps the love alive.

Mrs. Jorgensen: Ditto

Matthew Scillitani: Empathy, patience, and self-control are always going to be valuable skills to develop in a relationship. As time goes on, making sure that your mind and body are staying fit will help too. Hopefully my wife and I will be in good health into our old age, but if ever she’s unwell, I’d like to be healthy enough myself to support her.

Casey Scillitani: Developing your love for your partner, continuing to understand yourself and them as time goes on, realizing that many relationships fail because one or both partners love something about the other that isn’t enduring, and understanding what makes you really love your partner; if it’s something transient or permanent.

For example, figuring out that loving someone’s appearance, social status, or wealth isn’t true love. Those things go away with time, so if that’s what you were attracted to, the relationship won’t last and you’ll be constantly having to replace them.

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Thank you for taking the time for this short session on mating and dating amongst some smart people, these are intended for you and, if desired and if time, your partner too. Length of responses are entirely up to you. The focus is mating and dating here. “Mating,” the partnering part either by common law, marriage, or something equivalently formalized in some sense up to and including having children. “Dating,” the search and dance of finding someone or some people who fit well with your gender identity, sexual orientation, various belief commitments, emotional and intellectual proclivities, and the like. Regarding life goals and values, what seems, in an overview, essential to consider in a partner for intended short-term pairings and long-term relationships? The idea being: the image and goals, realistic and not, one has for one’s life vis-a-vis a partner. 

Jacobsen: Leta Hollingworth posited a plus or minus two standard deviation communication gap in cognitive ability. Too high or too low for interlocutors then the fidelity of conversation becomes too different to maintain it–let’s call this hypothesis cognitive ability congruence. This seems discussed amongst various high-IQ communities. Similarly for socioemotional sensitivities and skills, maybe, a similar hypothesis exists for these, in a different domain, too. In general terms, does this seem like a real factor in the area of intimacy and relationships–matching of mind and emotions for entrance into and sustainability of a relationship? 

Jacobsen: Following from the last question, or more particularly, how relevant, even rank-ordered in importance, are factors including “gender identity, sexual orientation, various belief commitments, emotional and intellectual proclivities,” desire for children, and more of which you’re aware, in selection of individuals in dating?

Jacobsen: Does the style of pairing seem to have an explicit or implicit effect, apparently statistically significantly different, on the health and longevity of the pairing, e.g., common law, secular marital union, religious ceremonial marriage, etc.?

Jacobsen: People change over time. Unless, they have some rigid personality structure, exhibit some personality structure disordering. What seem like important factors and skills to develop in, if not already have entering, the partnership to take into account over the evolution of the “dance” between the members of the relationship, as they age, change, grow, and even lose physical and mental functionality?

Mr. Tor Arne Jorgensen: In a relationship that lasts for decades, the dance between partners is about following each other’s rhythm, adjusting the steps as life changes, and never forgetting why they began the journey together in the first place. I’d like to highlight a few points that illustrate what I mean:

Communication and openness
Being open to each other’s thoughts, feelings, and desires, even as they change, is essential. Regular and honest dialogue helps build trust and understanding, preventing the couple from growing apart.

Flexibility and adaptability
Even when a couple shares values and goals, it’s natural for individuals to evolve over time. The ability to adapt to each other’s growth and find new ways to support one another is key to a lasting relationship.

Room for individual growth
Even in a close partnership, it’s important to give each other the freedom to pursue individual interests and passions. This can bring new energy to the relationship and inspire both personal and shared growth.

Maintaining intimacy
Love flourishes when the couple prioritizes closeness, both emotionally and physically. Small acts of affection and attention, like a hug, a compliment, or a thoughtful surprise, help keep the spark alive.

Shared goals and experiences
Setting new goals together or sharing experiences can further strengthen the bond. This might include traveling, exploring new hobbies, or contributing to the community in meaningful ways.

Patience and humor
Challenges will arise over time, whether they’re small annoyances or major life events. The ability to face them with patience and to laugh together when things don’t go as planned is an invaluable resource.

Care during physical or mental decline
As time goes on, health challenges may become a reality. A lasting love means being there for each other, showing care, and adjusting the relationship to accommodate these changes.

For couples like my wife and me, who already have a strong foundation, it’s this continuous evolution that keeps the love alive.

Mrs. Jorgensen: Ditto.

Discussion

The dialogue underscores the multifaceted nature of modern mating and dating, revealing how successful partnerships are built upon a blend of cognitive congruence, effective communication, and shared values. Participants point to the significance of both tangible factors—such as fertility and legal marriage—and more intangible elements, like socioemotional sensitivity and complementarity in daily life. Several contributors emphasized that while initial attraction often centers on physical appearance and immediate interests, it is the evolution of a relationship—through adaptive communication and the steady nurturing of shared goals—that determines its long-term health. For instance, the recurring theme of evolving relationship dynamics highlights how individuals must continuously recalibrate as they age, adapt, and face life’s inherent uncertainties. This reflects the idea that relationships, much like any dynamic system, require both structural stability and the flexibility to incorporate change.

The conversation also brought forward a nuanced perspective on the role of legal and ceremonial unions. While some participants underscored the value of formal marriage as a societal and symbolic anchor, others pointed out that the underlying commitment—characterized by everyday practices of care and mutual support—is what ultimately fortifies a partnership. This dichotomy illustrates that legal marriage and informal unions both have distinct benefits and limitations, often influenced by the broader cultural context and personal beliefs. Overall, the interview paints a picture of relationship sustainability that goes beyond simplistic notions of attraction. It invites readers to appreciate the delicate interplay of cognitive matching, complementary traits, and the resilience required to navigate both expected and unforeseen life challenges.

Methods

The interview was scheduled and recorded—with explicit consent—for transcription, review, and curation. This process complied with applicable data protection laws, including the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA), Canada’s Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act (PIPEDA), and Europe’s General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), i.e., recordings were stored securely, retained only as needed, and deleted upon request, as well in accordance with Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and Advertising Standards Canada guidelines.

Data Availability

No datasets were generated or analyzed during the current article. All interview content remains the intellectual property of the interviewer and interviewee.

References

(No external academic sources were cited for this interview.)

Journal & Article Details

• Publisher: In-Sight Publishing
• Publisher Founding: March 1, 2014
• Web Domain: http://www.in-sightpublishing.com
• Location: Fort Langley, Township of Langley, British Columbia, Canada
• Journal: In-Sight: Interviews
• Journal Founding: August 2, 2012
• Frequency: Four Times Per Year
• Review Status: Non-Peer-Reviewed
• Access: Electronic/Digital & Open Access
• Fees: None (Free)
• Volume Numbering: 13
• Issue Numbering: 2
• Section: A
• Theme Type: Idea
• Theme Premise: “Outliers and Outsiders”
• Theme Part: 33
• Formal Sub-Theme: None
• Individual Publication Date: February 22, 2025
• Issue Publication Date: April 1, 2025
• Author(s): Scott Douglas Jacobsen
• Word Count: 3,252
• Image Credits: Photo by Sean Stratton on Unsplash
• ISSN (International Standard Serial Number): 2369-6885

Acknowledgements

The author acknowledges Mr. Tor Arne Jorgensen, Mrs. Jorgensen, David Quinn, Matthew Scillitani, Casey Scillitani for his time, expertise, and valuable contributions. His thoughtful insights and detailed explanations have greatly enhanced the quality and depth of this work, providing a solid foundation for the discussion presented herein.

Author Contributions

S.D.J. conceived the subject matter, conducted the interview, transcribed and edited the conversation, and prepared the manuscript.

Competing Interests

The author declares no competing interests.

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